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Odd eggs
#1
Hi,



My blue Orpington can't seem to lay a good egg at the moment - I keep getting either a very fragile, thin shelled quite small egg or a soft shelled egg. All the others are fine, and I'm sure she has laid a good egg in the past. I often see her in the nest box in the morning but she doesn't seem to leave anything in there! This morning I found a soft shelled egg in the rim of the water hopper, almost dissolved. She has access to oyster shell at all times - what else can I do?? It's like she can't hold it in, a couple of times she has just dropped it as she's been walking along!



Thanks as always!



Sam
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#2
If this is a persistent problem you could try a pinch of Calcivet powder on a treat for five days, then a two day break, then five days on etc. The two day break is to make sure that their bodies don't forget how to use their internal calcium. If that doesn't do it there's a possibility that she can't utilise the calcium, so just add a pinch of 'Daily Essentials 3' every day which will give her the Vit D3 to use the calcium. This was suggested by my vet when the same thing happened to one of my ducks, persistent soft shells or no shells at all (sometimes just dropped as she walked around) even though she laid beautifully last season. You can get both Calcivet and Daily Essentials 3 at any bird shop, you can put them both in the food but if you've got a lot of hens it works out a bit expensive so I dosed my bird separately. The vet mentioned that the egg problem could also be caused by an infection in the oviduct, but in my case the Calcivet and DE3 sorted the problem in a matter of days.
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#3
Superb advice, huge thanks!! <img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Big Grin' />



I will get both to have in my poultry medicine cabinet! Do I give the Calcivet until normal laying resumes??



Thanks again!



S
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#4
Alternatively cod liver oil will help too.
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#5
Another top tip! Thank you! <img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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#6
[quote name='samthornton' date='03 May 2011 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1304411979' post='232586']

Do I give the Calcivet until normal laying resumes??

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I started to see a difference in the shells in a couple of days, and they were normal again after a week or so. For my duck, the Calcivet on its own didn't work, she needed the DE3 as well. You can carry on with both as long as you like, I still give her a dose on mealworms every couple of days - the DE3 (like all the Daily Essentials range) is designed to be given every day, but of course it's not normally 'essential' at all when our birds have outside space and can find their own stuff. GFM is right of course, CLO often sorts this problem out but in my case it didn't seem to solve it for that particular bird.
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#7
Limestone flour will help with Calcium levels and poor shell quality.
CHUCKLERS RULE THE ROOST - Dave. Zen Seeker of The Board. rabbit run
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#8
[quote name='zenith' date='03 May 2011 - 10:18 AM' timestamp='1304417891' post='232617']

Limestone flour will help with Calcium levels and poor shell quality.

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Thank you - and where would i get that from?



S
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#9
[quote name='samthornton' date='03 May 2011 - 11:54 AM' timestamp='1304420063' post='232625']

Thank you - and where would i get that from?



S

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Most horse/farm type store places sell it. <img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
CHUCKLERS RULE THE ROOST - Dave. Zen Seeker of The Board. rabbit run
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#10
I hate to say this, but I have one girl who persistantly lays soft shelled eggs and another girl who lays huge, thin shelled eggs, which are often broken before I get to them.

I tried all manner of things: Cod Liver Oil, Limestone Flour, Zolcal D, feeding them their shells back to them, I changed their layer pellets to Garvo - none of them worked - so I will watch this thread with interest.

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#11
[quote name='snowyp' date='04 May 2011 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1304524144' post='232860']

I hate to say this, but I have one girl who persistantly lays soft shelled eggs and another girl who lays huge, thin shelled eggs, which are often broken before I get to them.

I tried all manner of things: Cod Liver Oil, Limestone Flour, Zolcal D, feeding them their shells back to them, I changed their layer pellets to Garvo - none of them worked - so I will watch this thread with interest.

<img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />

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I tried CLO, Limestone Flour and crushed egg shells too - nothing worked until I gave her Calcivet and Daily Essentials 3. She still has it five days a week, when she sees me come out with a white basin she runs over because she knows it's her mealworms (she doesn't know what they're mixed with!). It's worth a try with your girl. If you can't get these locally you can get them by post from http://www.dietec.co.uk, they specialise in bird stuff.
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