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Dark egg question
#1
For you utility breed keepers, how come dark egg laying breeds struggle to keep there egg colour in the bantam version ? Is it poor breeding? just one of those things ? or has other breeds been used in there make up?
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#2
I am speaking under correction here, but any dark egg laying bird will struggle to keep the dark colour right through the season. Any egg colour will become lighter as the months go on, but once the bird has moulted out and come back into lay the egg colour will again start off dark, gradually lightening as time goes on.



I don't know why bantams have slightly lighter versions of the dark brown eggs - but my welbars still produce a good dark brown egg for most of the year. I doubt it is other breeding in there causing the problem - I suppose what I am trying to say is I don't know for sure!



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#3
I realise there eggs lighten as the year goes on having kept welsummers before but the bantam version of most dark egg breeds seem to be lighter even at the darkest if you know what i mean. I just wondered if there was a reason because i know many other bantam breeds have used other breeds to achieve there size.
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[quote name='Squizzers' date='27 August 2010 - 10:25 AM' timestamp='1282901133' post='205829']

I am speaking under correction here, but any dark egg laying bird will struggle to keep the dark colour right through the season. Any egg colour will become lighter as the months go on, but once the bird has moulted out and come back into lay the egg colour will again start off dark, gradually lightening as time goes on.



I don't know why bantams have slightly lighter versions of the dark brown eggs - but my welbars still produce a good dark brown egg for most of the year. I doubt it is other breeding in there causing the problem - I suppose what I am trying to say is I don't know for sure!



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The same doesnt seem to happen to bluey greeny ones tho. Well not that I have noticed <img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> I do remember the dark brown ones getting lighter, sometimes more speckledy too
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[quote name='gamefowlman' date='27 August 2010 - 10:30 AM' timestamp='1282901449' post='205832']

I realise there eggs lighten as the year goes on having kept welsummers before but the bantam version of most dark egg breeds seem to be lighter even at the darkest if you know what i mean. I just wondered if there was a reason because i know many other bantam breeds have used other breeds to achieve there size.

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True and I do understand what you mean! But don't know - wonder if it's worthwhile asking the genetic boffins for an answer?
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#6
Bantam barnevelder eggs are barely tinted, rather than dark brown. I assume that it's because different breeds were used in it's make-up. And I suppose, if you are breeding down with small versions of the lf version, you are bothered about size rather than egg colour. If that makes sense?
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#7
Ye this is what i reckon too chez. Good project too improve egg colour in bantam breeds <img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />
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#8
Thats what I believe has happened, while trying to breed the size down you cannot follow two roads, so size has won out over egg quality.

Was improving it in my Marans bants using an excellent dark egg laying lf hen and was heading the right way then decided to give up the Marans <img src='http://poultrychat.com/oldforumIcons/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> .

Found it quite easy if anyone else was thinking of giving it a go.

The difference between blue/green eggs and brown is the blue pigment is in the shell whereas the brown is added to the outside of the shell.
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